when I saw it was time for a change

[thejunipertree]

I sometimes get myself into things that I have difficulty pulling off.

Case in point, volunteering to do a presentation on Lucifer to the weekly religious study group I belong to. Last year, I had volunteered to do a similar work. But, that one was actually on Luciferianism. However after attempting to research this for about two weeks and finding nothing but a bunch of crap webpages with dripping blood bars, I ditched that and asked to change the topic of my presentation to something else.

When we were working up our calendar of lectures/presentations the other week, I was feeling my oats and once again suggested I do a piece on Lucifer. My mouth opened before my brain could put a stop to it. Again!

My presentation is due to be done this Sunday. grr.

I've been researching for about three weeks now, but I'm coming up against the same brick walls that I did the first time go round. This time, however, I've at least managed a proper outline. I'm not entirely satisfied with it, though. And I'm not exactly happy with the information I've managed to gather, it's kind of lacking and I'm going to need to do some serious carny talk to get it to sound like something decent.



*edit*
I've changed the bulk of the outline.

1. OPENING (an explanation of the hierarchy of angels)

2. Hypotheses of the Fall
a. the seven theories

3. Is Lucifer actually the Devil?
a. Isiah 14:12
b. The arguement of infallibility and preservation of God's Word (hah!)
c. mistranslations
d. Lucifer in Heaven/Satan on Earth

4. Lucifer in Fiction
a. Paradise Lost
b. Dante's Inferno
c. Doctor Faustus
d. Goethe's Faust
e. Neil Gaiman's Lucifer

5. Luciferians
a. pre-Christian philosophical and religious movement
b. Gospel of Judas
c. Church of Lucifer (modern day)

6. Other deities similar to Lucifer
a. Egyptian serpent god, Sata
b. Babylonian lightning god, Zu

7. CLOSING


I'm also going to have to really pull something brilliant out of my ass for the opening and closing statements. Those have never really been strong points of mine in scholarly writing.

So far, I've written everything except for the sections on Luciferians, other deities similar to Lucifer, and the closing. I think I might actually take a break and finish this tomorrow afternoon. My brain is boggling.

Comments

[zentariana.livejournal.com]

i've seen some big books on the history of lucifer and soforth. have you tried the library?

i hate openings and closing. i generally just say "uh...s o yeah..'

[meetzemonsta.livejournal.com]

No, but Miss Janette has been emailing me things she's found at the Queens Library. The library near me is kind of stinky.

[thane-of-ghosts.livejournal.com]

You have a lot of work to do, you can make a career out of the "Lucifer Myths". What I do remember from School was that Satan was called Lucifer (Isa. xiv. 12 ) before his explusion from heaven. Later on The early priests "Doctors of Demonology" are the ones that took each name for the devil and invented different personalities. Which were then used to explain who was behind the sin you comminted.
"Holy shit he won't stop spanking his monkey he must be possessed by Beelzbub!! Get the hot pokers and holy water we'll drive this foul purveyor of Masterbation out!!"
Just another way to distract the ingnorant mass while you maintain power or aquire more. Anyway I'm rambling and I have "SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL " stuck in my head because of your entry title.....

[meetzemonsta.livejournal.com]

What I do remember from School was that Satan was called Lucifer (Isa. xiv. 12 ) before his explusion from heaven.

I have a very large section about this, detailing how the book and chapter aren't actually about Lucifer but a fallen Babylonian king. Want to see it?

What school did you go to, btw?

[thane-of-ghosts.livejournal.com]

I went to 2 different private schools, one being catholic. You had to take theology classes. There were some non baised non christian teachers That had some interesting views about religion in general especially The cult of Christianity. But alas the were asked to leave after going against the Hard line roman catholic belief system. (New Nuns Took over the school)
I'd love to check out the Lucifer/Babylonian king info

[meetzemonsta.livejournal.com]

Hey, I finished the lecture. You want to read it?

[thane-of-ghosts.livejournal.com]

Sure! How did it go??

[meetzemonsta.livejournal.com]

It went fairly well, I think. Despite the fact that I absolutely suck at public speaking.

Where do you want me to email this to?

[thane-of-ghosts.livejournal.com]

I hate public speaking. my email is theforestghost@yahoo.com

unrelated, but thought you'd care

[serpent-sky.livejournal.com]

From NME:

Stellastarr*, Radio 1 Stage, Reading, Saturday 12:50pm

There is a dusty corner of every student's video collection, hidden under the porn, that will forever be Stellastarr*. The corner where Molly Ringwald sits around deserted High School libraries looking pouty in 1984. It's those big, blustery, psychadelicaly furry teen-rock anthems they revisit in order to do some jugga-wugga svelte punk bouncing and ba-ba-ba-ing all over them, turning out like Timbuk 3 locked in a tumble drier [ask your shade-wearing high-flyier uncle.]

And when they're not recreating the sounds of a Brat Pack prom song on "Somewhere Across Forever" they've even grander schemes in mind. "Stay Entertained" and its warm guitar glow would have been called a "soundscape" before the Anti-Shoegazing Cliche Bill of 1992 and new single "Jenny" manages the trick of making is guitar sound like bagpipes [(c) Big Country, 1983] and somehow turning out like arena-era James, only cool. Don't you forget about them.
-Mark Beaumont.

This has to be the single most indie-hipster, ridiculously over-the-top review of a live band I have ever read. Bur it made me laugh. I mean, when I saw them, all I wanted to say was "OMIGAWD THEY ROCK OUT!" and uhh... "me want..." while pointing at Michael. ;)

Yay, I see them again on Tuesday.

Re: unrelated, but thought you'd care

[meetzemonsta.livejournal.com]

hahahahaha!
That review was awesome.

I'm going to be seeing them on Friday in Philly. And Michael's going to be getting a big smack in the head because there was no mass email sent out to the friends to tell them the bad was coming to town. ^_^

(also, next time you come down, remind to pull out all the really embarassing photos I have of me and him. What a fucking hoot.)

[digichrist.livejournal.com]

I only just caught this, but I'm gonna kick your ARSE so hard! You know My Father doens't like all this Revisionist SHIT!!! ;)

Besides, you haven't mentioned Typheous....

[meetzemonsta.livejournal.com]

I only just caught this, but I'm gonna kick your ARSE so hard!

Bah!
You're all talk!